"I have been an Israeli official for three decades, and during that time Israel's intention was to exchange land for peace. It didn't have any desire to stay in the West Bank," says Liel. "Now the decision is different. Now, it seems, we want to stay there forever, so this causes comparisons [to South African Apartheid]," he stresses.
"In South Africa, black and white people could not be on the same bus, or at the same table or hospital... [here] Jews and Arabs use the same roads, and often the same buses. Many West Bankers are admitted to Israeli hospitals, where they get equal treatment as Jews."
"The Arab population has a right to vote, and has the right to be elected to parliament. There are indeed several Arab parties in the parliament. There are Arab judges [including in the Supreme Court]...Arabs [even] have a certain autonomy in Israel. They study in Arabic, and there is no reason to complain about their status".
Is Israel Careening Towards South Africa-Style Apartheid?
"What Israel did was that it created an apartheid law, where Jews were put above Arabs. Israel is no longer interested in a two-state solution. It is working towards establishing one state for all but in this state you can't have equality between the Jews and the Arabs," explains Liel.
"Israel doesn't care that much about its image. What's important for us is to have good relations with governments,” Liel says. “World governments are not basing their relations with Israel solely on the conflict with the Palestinians. They maintain good relations with the country because it is strong politically, militarily and economically. Palestinians, on the other hand, cannot give the world what Israel has been offering."
"For things to move we need fundamental changes. Those changes can either come from within Israeli politics, something that's unlikely, or they can come from the outside, when foreign governments start applying pressure on Israel."
"These might be small moves but they are an earthquake for Israel," says Liel. "Individual countries might not want to confront Israel but collectively they can change things, and as long as the occupation continues and the amount of settlers grows, this pressure promises to get even stronger."