"The Leopard 2 came into service initially back in the early 1980s, the Leopard 1s even before that. And the Leopard 2 has been upgraded over time as well, and that's the most sophisticated that Germany has. But warfare has changed, the ammunition has changed, they probably need some major upgrading in design. Based on some of the capabilities that Russia has that are out there, and China has that capability too, I don't know how you can look at them as being game changers."
"It's not helping the greatest for them. I don't know what their stock prices have been doing or sales. They’re a major supplier - not just for the Leopard tank, which is actually manufactured by Krauss-Maffei - but they're a major supplier to BAE, which is a major British company, they own something like 40-50% of that. They have Rafael. They provide the main gun for the US Abrams M2 tanks. So their capabilities are integrated across multiple NATO systems. So depending on where they're seeing their weakness, with them saying they're not prepared for this type of warfare, that could affect a lot of other systems,” he said.