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Listen: Trump’s Top Aide Explodes on Reporter in ‘Bait and Switch’ Phone Call

© AFP 2023 / MANDEL NGANTrump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway speaks at a rally for Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump at the Giant Center in Hershey, Pennsylvania on November 4, 2016
Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway speaks at a rally for Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump at the Giant Center in Hershey, Pennsylvania on November 4, 2016 - Sputnik International
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Kellyanne Conway, US President Donald Trump’s top White House aide and self-described “powerful woman,” berated and threatened a reporter over the phone following a story by the journalist that characterized Conway as “caught in the middle” of a feud between her husband and her boss.

On Wednesday, Conway’s assistant, Tom Joannou, placed a phone call to Caitlin Yilek, a breaking news reporter at the Washington Examiner. The day prior, Yilek had authored a piece about Conway potentially becoming the White House’s next chief of staff in which she mentioned that Trump and Conway’s husband, George Conway, have engaged in a prolonged public spat.

The conversation was meant to be off the record, but soon Kellyanne herself grabbed the phone and gave Yilek a piece of her mind. While the Examiner writer hadn’t been recording the talk with Yilek, she had no such arrangement with Conway and pressed the record button.

"So I just am wondering why in God’s Earth you would need to mention anything about George Conway’s tweets in an article that talks about me as possibly being chief of staff,” the White House aide suddenly said into the phone. “Other than it looks to me like there’s no original reporting here; you just read Twitter and other people’s stuff, which I guess is why you don’t pick up the phone when people call from the White House because, if it’s not on Twitter or it’s not on cable TV, it’s not real."

Attempting to clarify, Yilek said her editors require her to mention relevant context in her stories, and since George Conway and Trump have traded insults for years in the media, she felt it was pertinent information to include. When Kellyanne pressed the issue further, asking if she writes “about other people’s spouses in your pieces” regularly, Yilek offered to redirect the aide to her editors.

However, Conway was having none of it and told the writer not to rely on the men in her life, or to imply that Conway relies on the men in hers. 

"Let me tell you something, from a powerful woman,” Conway, 52, told Yilek, who is 29. “Don’t pull the crap where you’re trying to undercut another woman based on who she’s married to. He gets his power through me, if you haven’t noticed. Not the other way around. And if these are the quote standards unquote at the Washington Examiner, then yes, I'd be happy to talk to your editor. But I’ve known your editor since before you were born."

The Donald Trump-George Conway feud is nothing to sneeze at, either: George once authored an 11,500-word hit piece on the president in The Atlantic titled “Unfit for Office,” in which he berated Trump’s ability to lead. He’s also called the Trump administration “a s**t show in a dumpster fire” and suggested the president has narcissistic personality disorder.

For Trump’s part, he’s called George a “whackjob” and a “stone cold loser & husband from hell.”

​What’s interesting is that Kellyanne couldn’t seem to recall this when Yilek brought it up. When Conway said Yilek lacks the authority to characterize her feelings by mentioning the feud, Yilek told her, "I don’t know that that is characterizing your feelings to say you’re put in the middle if your husband and your boss are attacking each other,” to which Conway could only demur.

However, before the call was over, Conway threatened the journalist with an investigation of her own.

"Listen, if you’re going to cover my personal life, then we’re welcome to do the same around here," she said. "If it has nothing to do with my job - which it doesn’t, that’s obvious - then we’re either going to expect you to cover everybody’s personal life or we’re going to start covering them over here."

When the Examiner published an article with a recording and transcript of the call on Thursday, journalists on Twitter rallied to Yilek’s defense, highlighting the topic’s relevance and the absurdity of Conway’s position.

​It was also suggested that the transcript would make a great script for a dramatic reading.

​The Washington Examiner’s editor-in-chief, Hugo Gurdon, to whom Yilek offered to connect Conway during the phone call, issued a statement on Thursday about the incident.

“Off the record conversations are agreed in good faith and in advance between people known to be participating. They are not, and never have been, a blanket coverage to shield people who pull a bait and switch, peremptorily enter the conversation, and then spend ten minutes abusing, bullying, and threatening a reporter,” Gurdon said. “Other organizations may agree to be played for saps, but the Washington Examiner won’t.”

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